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someone_else Jan 10 2012, 11:09 Group: Heroes, Official provider of nitpicking services Quote Post
article from their site

A s you may have read in the New York Times, it’s an exciting time for Dungeons & Dragons. We are happy to announce today that we are developing the next iteration of D&D, and will be looking to the legions of D&D fans to help shape the future of the game along with us.

Our mission is to ensure that D&D enters its next 40 years as a vibrant, growing, and exciting game. By listening to the needs of the D&D community, we can meet this goal. As part of our increased efforts to engage with the player-base, we launched a series of weekly articles in early 2011, including Rule of Three and Legends & Lore, to give you a voice in our work. We’ve listened to both praise and criticism from all D&D fans, regardless of their edition of choice, and we’ll continue to do so.

That is why we are excited to share with you that starting in Spring 2012, we will be taking this process one step further and conducting ongoing open playtests with the gaming community to gather feedback on the new iteration of the game as we develop it. With your feedback and involvement, we can make D&D better than ever. We seek to build a foundation for the long-term health and growth of D&D, one rooted in the vital traits that make D&D unique and special. We want a game that rises above differences of play styles, campaign settings, and editions, one that takes the fundamental essence of D&D and brings it to the forefront of the game. In short, we want a game that is as simple or complex as you please, its action focused on combat, intrigue, and exploration as you desire. We want a game that is unmistakably D&D, but one that can easily become your D&D, the game that you want to run and play.

D&D is more than just a set of rules for fantasy gaming. It launched an entire gaming genre and played a pivotal role in creating the entirety of the gaming industry, both analog and digital. The game has lived and thrived because it has awoken a spark of creation, visions of daring adventure, wondrous vistas, and untold horrors that pull us all together as a community of RPG fans. It is the countless players and DMs who have brought it to life over the years. The game is at its best when it is yours.

For that reason, we want your participation. The goals we have set for ourselves are by no means trivial or easy. By involving you in this process, we can build a set of D&D rules that incorporate the wants and desires of D&D gamers around the world. We want to create a flexible game, rich with options for players and DMs to embrace or reject as they see fit, a game that brings D&D fans together rather than serves as one more category to splinter us apart.

We have begun obtaining feedback from a limited Friends & Family playtest consisting of internal employees and their gaming groups and soon we will be expanding that group to consist of members from our existing body of playtesters. Then at the D&D Experience convention in late January, Wizards of the Coast will conduct a special playtest of ideas currently in development. The D&D Experience will be moving to Gen Con in 2013, so as a convention special this year, we will be offering show attendees a first-look at a draft of the new set of rules. Then beginning sometime in the spring, we will begin open playtesting. Through our web site, we will release a growing set of rules, classes, monsters and other materials for your study and feedback. We seek to reach as many people as possible, from the gamer who just started with D&D last week to the gaming group that has been together since the early-1970s. For this process to work, we want to give a voice to all D&D fans and players of all previous editions of the game.

The next year is going to be an exciting one. There is a lot of work to be done, and I’m hoping you have the time, energy, and inclination to pitch in. We sure hope you do, as we seek to make gaming history by shaping the future of D&D, together. If you would like to sign up today to be notified when the playtest is beginning and how you can participate, click here:

Man how much I hate all the molasses in that article.

Anyway, this is the definite proof, 4e sucks and sales demonstrate it.

Let's just hope the next won't be a so obvious train-wreck.
lordmalachdrim Jan 10 2012, 12:42 Group: Heroes, Level 16 Quote Post
D&D 5th ed will be AD&D 2nd Ed cleaned up and revised (including improvements made by Kenzer Co of the original HackMaster done under license with WotC)
Stardiver Jan 10 2012, 12:45 Group: Heroes, Status +10 Quote Post
Already, another set set of rules revisions. That's six now, if you count 3.5.
Sorry, but they lost me after 3. I don't want to partake in table-top WarCamp. The game must really suck if it needs 6 revisions, though its more like reselling the same rehased stuff with different covers and wording.
It's like a bad horror movie series that simply won't quit. alienwink.gif
I'm done ranting now dry.gif
derek_holland Jan 10 2012, 13:31 Group: Heroes, Master of Mutant Creation Quote Post
Hey, Gamma World has 7 editions and none of them suck. Each is its own, unique, game and setting. I may not like the rulesets for 3 and 7e but I am not going to diss them for that. There are plenty of fans for those editions.

As for D&D 5e, I only care in how it will impact GW 8e. I am hoping for something a lot less looney than 7e and as flexable as 2, 4 or 6e.

In fact, I hope that D&D 5e takes some of GW 4e to heart. Its creature design was amazing for its time- it seperated hit dice and combat capability. Considering it was meant to work with AD&D 2e, that is something.
ch33z3gr8t0r Jan 10 2012, 17:08 Group: Heroes, Level 19 Quote Post
LOL I am sooo glad I didn't buy any 4e books... If you do have them sell sell SELL!!! its 3.0 all over again!
Vyrolakos Jan 10 2012, 17:31 Group: Heroes, Level 8 Quote Post
Wow, these guys really know how to milk a product line.

So.... what are the major differences after AD&D then? just joking! laugh.gif
Krom Jan 10 2012, 18:14 Group: Heroes, Level 14 Quote Post
Author (lordmalachdrim @ Jan 10 2012, 05:42)
D&D 5th ed will be AD&D 2nd Ed cleaned up and revised (including improvements made by Kenzer Co of the original HackMaster done under license with WotC)

That'd be great (I still play 2nd ed) but I don't think they'll go that route. They are going to go back any farther than 3e.
uncle_jimbo Jan 10 2012, 20:58 Group: Grid Cop, 5éme Corbin Quote Post
4e was probably too much of a departure from the gameplay and spirit of previous editions, but made some changes from 3e that were at least half right, which I think will inform 5e. I would almost assume they'll quietly lift ideas from Pathfinder and some of the other adaptations of d20 as well.

It will be very interesting to see what they do with the new license. I think Wizards' management will see that they need to have one - the near-death of 3rd party support for 4e, compared to the strong community for Pathfinder, is a not-insignificant symptom of some of 4e's problems. However I think those who interpret Mearls' pleasant but vague comments as an intention to go back to the OGL are much too optimistic.
TerroX Jan 10 2012, 23:02 Group: A.Net Staff, Admin of Doom Quote Post
I couldn't fully read through that press release. Will try again later.
Guardian Jan 11 2012, 01:36 Group: Heroes, WarHulk AI Quote Post
I gave up and skipped right to the punchline. I don't care, and they can't make me.
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